Curse

Jeydra · Jun 07, 2011, 01:22 AM // 01:22

How about this: lower the rating of a new guild to 900, and make the minimum rating of a guild 900 (i.e. you don't lose rating if you lose your guild's first GvG match).

Chocolate_Prayers · Jun 07, 2011, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Or remove all items except Party/Sweet/Alcohol from the GvG strongboxes

*lemming* · Jun 07, 2011, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnicornStampede

1. GvG goes back to dead

2. No reward for casual guilds

3. doesn't do anything with ppl with multiple accounts.

again, Make it so you can't resign before 2 minutes (or longer), so when the syncers aren't fighting the other sync guilds, it would take a lot longer for them to go in another match.

Or even make it you can't resign before 5 minutes, and if you leave you get dishonor. A lot less people would be abusing it if you have to wait 5 minutes if you don't face a sync guild if you're a syncer.

1. We'll see how long this spurt of ladder activity lasts, anyway. I can't imagine that it'll stay active past a couple more weeks.

2. Make the rating slightly lower, or something. It's not a complete solution either way, though - there'll be plenty of time for them to sync during American hours anyway, when the relatively high rating won't matter for matchmaking.

3. Yeah. It'll cut into their margin of profit at best.

There's already a moratorium on resigns, btw. Resigning before 2 minutes doesn't give the other team boxes.

Icy The Mage · Jun 07, 2011, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnicornStampede

1. GvG goes back to dead

2. No reward for casual guilds

3. doesn't do anything with ppl with multiple accounts.

again, Make it so you can't resign before 2 minutes (or longer), so when the syncers aren't fighting the other sync guilds, it would take a lot longer for them to go in another match.

Or even make it you can't resign before 5 minutes, and if you leave you get dishonor. A lot less people would be abusing it if you have to wait 5 minutes if you don't face a sync guild if you're a syncer.

Just because #3 doesn't completely solve the problem doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented.

Jet · Jun 07, 2011, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Should've seen this coming a mile away. You add a chest that can drop rare stuff, of course there are going to be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing losers who will tank rating to get the chest or "farm" it. What arenanet should do is remove this lame attempt to try to encourage players to pvp. If you need some encouragement to play pvp, then your not cut out for it and should not play it. You play pvp because you like it not for some lame chest.

Elnino · Jun 07, 2011, 03:58 AM // 03:58

People are supposed to want to get higher up in the ladder. Introducing a rank requirement for the boxes will only reinforce this.

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Originally Posted by Sauron The Greatest

So GvG has its own "red resign" now, it should meet the same fate as HB and get the axe imo.

Remove GvG from the game.

I agree with this logic.

melissa b · Jun 07, 2011, 04:03 AM // 04:03

I do like the rank requirement suggestion as an alternative to mine. Casual pvp players will always have Random Arena Strong Boxes.

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About hb removal, the whole rr must delete thing, it may have been an excuse to delete it

Kunder · Jun 07, 2011, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Go ahead and scale the drops based on the rating. If you beat a low level guild, you get a strongbox with low rewards. Beat a high level guild, get a strongbox with higher rewards. Lets see how many people farm it when there is 0% chance of striking it big and all you get are a handful of ales for your time.

Missing HB · Jun 07, 2011, 05:57 AM // 05:57

The only way to fix low rating syncing a bit would be to make it so you can't go below 975-1000 ladder points..... However , will it really stop people from farming chests , that's the question...

But , once again , what is done for people syncing codex easily + getting chests easily ?? what is done for people farming HA dead hours easily ??

Swingline · Jun 07, 2011, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by FallenAngel_

It was a PvP update, directed towards... PvP. There is no purpose aside from spreading availability to everyone.
WiK was for PvE, Dungeons was for PvE.
PvP hasn't really received many updates, let them have what was given to them.

You fail to see the point. GvG matches are being manipulated for cash rewards and RA is worse off now because of this. Even with the strongboxes at the zaishen coin merchant PvP is still reaping the benefit of this since pvp zquests are repeatable 24/7. This would still would encourage people to pvp for coins because the chances of getting a good drop from a strongbox are very slim to none. You are in fact right that PvP does deserve an update but this was the wrong approach.

cataphract · Jun 07, 2011, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauron The Greatest

So GvG has its own "red resign" now, it should meet the same fate as HB and get the axe imo.

Remove GvG from the game.

Epic logic. /bow

And I wholeheartedly agree.

SkittlesOmg · Jun 07, 2011, 06:41 AM // 06:41

make it 1300 rating and higher

nologic · Jun 07, 2011, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Anet probably won't admit that there is anything wrong with their new reward system, just as they refused to admit they did anything wrong in the past, at all.. They wouldn't even admit if they unrightfully banned someone. So I don't immediately see them admitting that their new reward system is in any way flawed... They'll probably try to ignore it to death tbh...

Well they havent done anything wrong this time, it's the player base that are doing it wrong.
Anet only made PvP more rewarding. If people are resigning in GvG like RR day they are just bad players who doesn't deserve it.

Players who abuse the system should be banned.

Swingline · Jun 07, 2011, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by nologic

Well they havent done anything wrong this time, it's the player base that are doing it wrong.
Anet only made PvP more rewarding. If people are resigning in GvG like RR day they are just bad players who doesn't deserve it.

Players who abuse the system should be banned.

Flawed logic but what can u expect with a name like that. Anet did do something wrong. Doesn't matter what happens you cant have faith in the player base because someone will always take advantage of unfair methods to get what they want.

cataphract · Jun 07, 2011, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by nologic

Anet only made PvP more rewarding.

Anet gave pve rewards for pvp.

I have four gwamms and 50/50 hom but can't emote a tiger or dragon. This update makes me want to have pvp rewards for my pve.

papryk · Jun 07, 2011, 07:45 AM // 07:45

add a condition to get the strongbox: u must kill the Guild Lord.

Elnino · Jun 07, 2011, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by papryk

add a condition to get the strongbox: u must kill the Guild Lord.

Red side = let blue team kill your lord
Blue side = say "happy RR"

Won't change anything I'm afraid.

papryk · Jun 07, 2011, 09:11 AM // 09:11

then raise the time to 5 minutes + add the "kill guild lord" condition.
i dont think that ppl who rr will wait such amount of time + fighting

or even better...

just delete strongboxes as a reward from winning in any pvp format and make them like z-keys exchangeable @ tolkano for 5k faction

problem solved

FoxBat · Jun 07, 2011, 09:20 AM // 09:20

5 minutes is enough for a decent guild to roll a bad one, no sense in punishing a team for doing so. Plus the resign farming is still faster.

Any in-match thing you think of will be worked around and cause more problems for legitimate games. A solution must be implemented outside the matches themselves.

sthpaw · Jun 07, 2011, 09:28 AM // 09:28

can you guys please confirm, after a long 28min game winning on lord damage, why is it that these strong boxes do not appear for the winner? was it just a once off glitch cause of that i thought u needed to kill the guild lord.